What do you miss the most about Jamaica? So, much as the tradition and the protocol is beautiful to watch, if youre not from it, it can rub you the wrong way a few times. This person who had negative experiences, I wonder if shes from a northern European background, because I know I need to keep my eyebrows from moving around them. Theyre at different levels, different level. More like direct. I was only there practically a day and a half, two days. Reprisal killings make up a significant portion of our murder rate in Jamaica. Ghana is rather homogenous. Why do you people loose sleep over a perceived hatred from Ghanians? Ruth: There you go. I mean, the Dominican (Republic) is embarrassed of their hate of Haitian people. You can find, Lets think. Xavier: Well, thank you and blessings to you and your family and to all the Jamaicans there in Ghana. When you see people walking and their body rocks like your body rocks or when they dance. Xavier: So food, lets talk food. It calls on your senses much more than many other countries. I cant fully explain it, but it just is. The African mixed Jamaicans identify themselves as black and therefore, the population of Jamaicans with Indian ancestry is believed to be much higher than what is reported. I think every, black person, every person of color, every person, even white, it dont matter. Thats all Im saying. Ruth: I dont have many but there are two common ones. You can never go clockwise when youre saying hello to people. You know, the proverb that came to mind was, children to speak when theyre spoken to. Thats the first proverb that came to mind when you kind of said that. I have ALWAYS known that the East Indies had a problem with the Jamaican ( Cuban and Haitian). They heard it so often and wanted their freedom so badly that they started to believe something must be wrong with them. Ruth: Everything, everything. So, you can decide, which is the right pronunciation, but its more people calling it, plantain and plantain. Ironically cutting lines is one of the things we Jamaicans hate. So yes, weve done both. They just dont understand why the truth seems a bit delayed or seems a bit colored. WebMost Jamaicans are of predominant African heritage, especially Western Africa. These are part of ADOS ideology, which we have also overwhelmingly encountered online. Now, if youre not a first-timer and you already used to the place, and I would say, everybody should try it, is Fufu. What non-Jamaicans should try to understand is the intention behind our perceived 'meanness'. I wasnt romanticizing about it. Ruth: But yes. Hypocrite. Bring the food from your culture, but please do leave everything else at the door. But no. Telling each side is the challenge. So be very clear. I think the last figures I saw were 70 something percent do their main shopping in open markets. But the way we flavor it with salt fish is a way they flavor the majority of Ghanaian dishes are flavored with some form of smoked fish that is cut up just the same way wed cut up salt fish. Before you criticize Bajans and say oh they hate Jamaicans you might need to get your historical facts correct. WebJamaican English, including Jamaican Standard English, is a variety of English native to Jamaica and is the official language of the country. What Ive noticed more is that yes they are blunt and straightforward for the most part and aggressive which is fine but it tends to be biased straightforwardness. You are. I guess I can see how people with less sense could simplify it to that. Bajans dont hate Jamaicans. So if youre standing in a supermarket line, you can crack a joke and make reference to the child of the person in front of you. I didnt say jamaicans invented rudeness either. I think thats what they have in common and thats whats very similar to Jamaica. Thank you very much. Period. Because matrilineally, our kids belong to my family and not my husbands family. She came to vent and be offensive, so who can say what her actual thoughts are? But, I can definitely see how the French can be more passionate then the northerners are used to. Ghanaians I know do not speak negatively about Nigerians in fact they are peaceful and they are more focused on providing and protecting their families than worrying about what Nigerians are doing. I mean theyre very, very different places. So it boils down to racism or the belief Every time a Southerner gives me this as their reason for why the South East is a great place to live, I burst their bubble by telling them that this is precisely what I hate about it and why I dont trust them. WebJamaicans hate utility bills especially for water and light (electricity). So they struggle to wrap their brains around that, unless theyve traveled. Ruth: The flip side of that means that theres limited ability to challenge in the way that were used to in Jamaica. I never thought Jamaicans were mean! You know, I think at some point we will were going to dig deep enough to find it. Total myth. Ruth: Yes. For one, they are both extremely proud and passionate peoples, which can sometimes lead to conflict. Obviously their quest for freedom continuedand even the government fought to contain them! Jamaican culture has something called gimmicks where literally all we do is make fun of each other. I miss the beach and it sounds weird because were on a coast here, but our beaches are different and there isnt a beach culture here. Im a proud Jamaican love us or hate us Barbados or Trini we dont care we are who we are we wont stop yall from hating us cause your countries aint the only country that hate Jamaicans and we are still living so we dont care. We will brag about cutting lines while others waited hours. Clothes, looks, being right, what they have or can do with a lack of intrinsic worth and emotional understanding. A distinction exists between Jamaican English and Jamaican Patois (or Creole), though not entirely a sharp distinction so much as a gradual continuum between two extremes. And I think that thats why we have this whole salt fish story going on. Thank you for taking the time to read and comment. 2. And again, we kind of touched on it. Spending everything on the BMW. Im looking forward to, as you said, to wheel and come again.. (We take bad things make joke). Chances are, you assumed they were arguing. (which part of Jamaica are you from), Ruth: A come from Kingston, near Barbican, close enough to Andrews and close enough to you guys down at JC. And I just remember closing my eyes and listening to everything and saying, oh my goodness, this sounds like home. What you described, for instance, sounds more correct of African-American hood culture to me than Jamaicans at large. Xavier: So my next question to you is, so what do you like? Were kind of like the Nigerians. So, even if youre six months older than me, you get my respect. You have judged Jamaican culture through what I assume is American lenses, but our culture is much richer and much deeper than your surface-deep analogy. And I was like, no, but the Virgin Mary just didnt have a baby. No humans like to be critisized or wrong but the force seems stronger in the jamaican culture. Jamaicans are not mean. Brief excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given to Alexis Chateau with appropriate and specific direction to the original content. I have a Haitian family member, for instance, who shared that it wasnt the White kids telling him to go back to his country. Jamaican English tends to follow British And this has happened in EVERY country I travel to. We lived there for a total of three plus seven, about 10 years, I guess. Furthermore, our society and culture is inherently aggressive. Xavier: -its just totally. Where the ego part comes in like Marty said is when they get it back. I thank you for the education about Jamaican culture. At noones fault of there own. We may be loud and in some cases brutish but we're polite and respectful. Kirk Campbell, i dont know if youre a jamaican but Im one, and we are a very aggressive people, yes, aggressive. I dont know if theres anything else you have to add to adjusting that. Thats very, very interesting. Is Pan Chicken Different from Jerk Chicken? You know, when you enter a room, you have to greet people in a certain direction. Peoples behavior represents centuries of behavior that was interrupted at some point, but it wasnt taken away. It was very enlightening. Soon enough, someone asks the question, Why are Jamaicans so mean? In fact, not only is this the search query that brings a lot of people to my blog, but its also a question I get asked often. TRUTH ISJAMAICA, heroes are never hailed by people who dont know how to get off their knees. Croaking Lizards (Gecko) Mi hear a loud croaken lizaad pon yuh verandah, suh me tun back Who has the Best Patties in Jamaica? I wish her all the best. As a little girl in primary school, ourteacher taught us that Barbados was the jewel of the Caribbean. Im In Double Trouble With My Love Interests, Winning Return To The Ring For Jamaicas Axeman, Unconscionable for Taxpayers to Fund Politics, Frontier Airlines Launches More Flights to Montego Bay, Jamaica, Jamaica Removes Visa-Free Transit Privilege For Cuban Nationals. Saving water and electricity is an art practiced by many Jamaicans daily. this is not true at all. Jamaicans hate utility bills especially for water and light (electricity). This is seen in our language and interactions like e.g., you're laughing and then slap the nearest person. Xavier: Wow! See, I too came here trying to understand why some woman with a Jamaican accent on the phone made me want to beat her senseless! So finally, when he comes, you say, So why you never tell me? Bwoy (boy), a never want to upset you. But theyre Ghanaian kids with international attachments. The tradition is very hierarchical. Went to go and report me to the bank manager. When you and I sit down, separately, well have another conversation. If I hadnt met him, I dont know when I would have come, but I came because of him and I found all of this, which surprised me. Just easy yourself and itll be Jamaica; no problem, I come with baggage (@aly_berry1) March 8, 2020, So, what did she want you to say? WebThe ethnogenesis of the Black Jamaican people stemmed from the Atlantic slave trade of the 16th century, when enslaved Africans were transported as slaves to Jamaica and And you are exactly right, I learned in history the exact thing, even to this day the American government still have a policy to not let in too much jamaicans in the U.S. . It's just cultural . When you come to the U.S., Americans want you to look American and sound American. A few people eat Ackee, not many people know it, but it grows all over the place. But even through the yelling, chances are well reach an understanding. But, its all familiar and its all similar. Rain is like kryptonite to Jamaicans. But it is this way. The world stops when it is raining. We Jamaicans are, for the most part, open and accepting people. Yes. Xavier: I dont remember the name of it, but, you know, I know there were a lot of kids around, it seemed like, you know, its a day trip for kids and I dont remember the name of the park. So even though Jamaicans might look at seh, bwoy dem mek dem clothes tight eeh, (say, boy they make their clothes tight huh) because they do make their clothes tight here, to show their form, to show their body. Yes. We generally dont beat around the bush. Remember to share this article on Facebook and other Social Media Platforms. Thank you for this Xavier. Youve seen attempts in Jamaica to have local music or local beats or indigenous beats re-introduce themselves into our music and our way of worship, but wi (we) nuh (dont) reach yet. Whatsapp. I would believe that if you believe. So, Ghanaians are very conservative with showing their bodies. While we do have some exceptions, most of us are the most genuine people you could ever hope to meet. Two such ones are traffigator, an amalgamation of traffic and indicator as is used on a car and with an inserted g for good measure. Instead of trying to answer this one myself, Ive enlisted the help of fellow Jamaicans to tell you why we are so mean after all or that youre totally mistaken. Dance through down. And that goes for everyone, women included. What are the disadvantages of shielding a thermometer? . But as we all know it is not applicable to every Ghanaian. MOST racist people do not know that they are racists but simply just think and find a reason to dislike. You have to wait for A, B and C to happen before you go and say that this person died. democracies can be very persuasive. Still, there is another side of Jamaicans. Never before have I ever heard so much ignorance or seen such lies put on the internet. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window), Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window), Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window), Why Are Jamaicans So Mean? I appreciate knowing how to not offend and not be offended. I thought who are the mad people here, the ones who ran for their freedom or the ones who bowed down and remained slaves? Despite all the challenges We will find that. Why is that? A part of me was saying to myself that, because we hear that a lot of us, Jamaicans, are from Ghana or that region, we, though may be psychological, its built in our minds to think that. Xavier: It was about an hour away or, yes, about that. I almost beat her up. Xavier: I can tell you this, Ghana is at the top of my list, and I will be back. but all the island peoples are family. But I wasnt a historian. The language has a distinctive rhythmic and melodic quality. See How To Advertise. So thats why Im hesitant to use the word lie. Xavier: All right. Ruth: So, I hooked up with a Ghanaian at university in the US, and we got married, in Jamaica. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. They believe that if youre maintaining peace, its okay to delay the truth or to color the truth. treat them with disdain. Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Culture / Ghanians Why Do U Pretend To Hate Nigerians, And Ethiopians Love Us? People call in sick to work. Wait til you sign out. In some cultures, imitation is flattery. Is there anything missing from this list? Its a hard exterior with a soft interior and lack of emotional control. On a good day, well humour you. Articles written from a Jamaican Perspective. It was too short of a time. Here are the 9 Reasons Why You Should be Eating More How Jamaican Men Say Thank You to another Jamaican How Jamaicans Greet You When They Have Not Seen You 20 English Words That Sound Better In Jamaican Patois. Tell us by leaving a comment below. Call them what you might, but they were not getting on their knees! Because if youre from a matrilineal system, then the children belong to the mother. Too well,in fact,if you know what I mean. They will defend. Ruth: And you very much see that here. Also, what many outsiders view as us fussing is us having a good time. Xavier: So heres the next question. I mean, what is not a better way to keep slaves from revolting as a whole. So, if you imagine raw dumpling. Your experiences are yours and your observations are your own. daphne's daughter (@DeniseWhorms) March 7, 2020, I dont think jamaicans are necessarily mean. FyffeStar (@FyffeJireh) March 7, 2020. As an author, you must be doing so badly that you had to find some ignorance to stir up some attention. I would say the total Ghanaian experience is to climb the stairs above a market area and just watch how people move. Too bad for them that I can compare an attitude/image to 100 different (awful) things, Ambrosia Blue Lagoon Budget (@ambrosia_omG) March 7, 2020, Not mean, we're just an extremely direct culture. of right-wing anti-refugee content on Facebook predicted crimes against refugees in. They didnt need the new religion and they certainly didnt need to bake in the sun! Much of the hype of hatred of any form is It also comes down to where you went to school, where you work, who you know, what you drive, where you live, how often you travel, the first impression you give off, how you carry yourself, etc. I know thats bizarre for Americans and most other nationalities because America is a White Patriarchy. I read the comments made by anonymous about the bullying and rudeness and I cant help but wonder if that person didnt fully grasp cultural differences. Missing you. So what is this rubbish about Bajans not liking Jamaicans? You didnt spend long enough. Here are our picks for the top 5 things Jamaicans hate. And now I couldn't get a new bank card. I didnt go there nearly as much but-. What I DID LEARN was that slaves were shipped from island to island as trade between slave owners. There are no hurt feelings, but if you dont know our culture you would assume otherwise. To know it is to love it. So for example, if a relative dies, your own relatives could take a week to tell you that somebody important, somebody close to you has died because they dont want the shock of it to hit you. The sad part about this history is that Jamaicans came to believe the propaganda. What was it, what did they say? I say lord, tek (take) time nuh (no) man. All we do is not show up and then afterwards apologize. But Ghana feels like home in a different way. Research like this is essential to understanding why that is, and how to change it. Theyll tell you you cant take critisim and a second later youll give constructive critisim and theyll get defensive then turn it around on you and attack. So, people would be scared that somebody like me would come and have children here and then would leave with the children. But theres still a bit of it left in me and I still see it through new eyes day. So, its not an attraction per se, but if somebody came to Ghana and didnt go to a market, not the craft market, not a tourist market, the market, which is like the mall for locals, then youd be missing the whole, youd be missing the whole beat. They can deport us until kingdom come, but the UK is an extension of Jamaica. Kirk Campbell, I didnt say s law , dummy. So when you go abroad and even when, you know, I travel abroad you get this, whats your funniest moment when someone discovered, you know, a Ghanaian discovered that you were Jamaican. THE TRUTH IS this is why you are disliked, hated even, by other islanders, your other side of the family. In Ghana, so thats what I would do in Ghana. WebYes, they both feel like home. And we appreciate you spending the time. Come again. differences. The culture doesnt define everyone there but can be found in many. Whats the, if Im coming to Ghana, I cant say whats your favorite, but whats the thing that we must try. So theres a whole old school, what we consider to be an old school conversation around that. Jamaicans, we just put everything out there and we just speak our mind. I have immigrant friends from all around the world and that is precisely how we view America and its people. But once you get it, youre there. We're not mean, they're just soft. Most of us speak patois, which is an aggressive language, like German. Jamaicans believe these lizards will stick to your skin leaving a pattern once they are pulled off. I can tell you this, you know, I kept saying, oh, Jamaican just saying that because its been ingrained in us to say, we come from there. But its all very tasty, very peppery, very flavored with different smoked fishes. Thanks for commenting. Because historically were so linked to Ghana. I tore up like a baby. So, I explain, I come from a culture where if we dont like you, we make it perfectly clear. Its a snack that you eat on the road, but first-timers love it. Hello Marie! But in traditional Ghana, our children wouldnt even inherit from him. We were taught that any mad/crazy slave or any slave who could not take instructions, were shipped off to Jamaica. And at some point, we left the US to be in South Africa, and then came back to Ghana. 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