Subject: Fwd: ED SCHULTZNATIONAL TALK HOSTDISABLED VET DENIED JUSTICE! http://501medmen.bizhosting.com Alcohol induced psychosis and death from toxicity is not suicide, or is it? Just a note of trivia. I was never spit on and in fact the only real negative stuff I saw when I got back was that lots of folks just didnt want to hear from us about our experiences. This is not to say that we werent casualties of other things like Agent Orange and things we probaby dont even know about, but the fact remains, we are NOT dying off at a disproporttionate rate, we are NOT more suicidal that other generations of combat vets, and we KNOW who the real Vietnam Vets were (those on the ground). What is a combat vet? Racial and Ethnic Groups 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 2020 2025 2030 2035 2040 Millions Men Women. I do not know or care, where your stats came from. Can I cut apples the night before for apple pie? Call me Pete. I always say welcome home to a vietnam vet. MarDivPhoto on Oct 9, 2009 refers to the American War Museum website, and mike_brewer on Oct 12, 2009 refers to the Vietnam War Museum, both as the source of the number 850,000 living Vietnam veterans. The dedication of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in 1982 began the process, but many identify the Gulf War of 1990-91with its national flag-waving, yellow-ribbon cultural mobilization and the grand celebrations of a successful campaignas ending Vietnam Syndrome. In my military career, I personaly wrote CIB support letters for over 20 non-11B soldiers whom I knew had spent more than 180 days in a forward deployed posture and were under combat conditions, 6 receiving purple hearts none received the CIB. I guess its a compliment to us allthat all these wannabees are prentnding to be vets but I still get pizzed at them when I figure them out after a few beers in a bar or whatever. Thanks for the clarification. At this rate there will be only a few of us alive in 2015. Roughly 300-thousand veterans have died from Agent Orange exposure -- that's almost five times as many as the 58-thousand who died in combat. So long ago-time tames the memories and makes them Kind!!!! I was wondering about these statistics. Queleparece is a website that writes about many topics of interest to you, a blog that shares knowledge and insights useful to everyone in many fields. For those who believe that the stories of being spit on and being called baby killers and other injustices is crap than you are living in a dream world. Did you know that is the day Ho Chi Minh died? So, lets say there were not more, just, alot. It is still tragic. The VA study, along with a call by Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer of New York for broader research into liver flukes and cancer-stricken veterans, began after The Associated Press raised the issue in a story last year. Jun. The only qualifier may be that there is a misunderstanding about what In Country means. I have followed out governments proclivity to repeat errors endlessly. Then ask, Do you think I might have been affected by this ambiguity between grounded reality in the tri canopy jungle and political reality at home which was counter to the troops welcome return (sarcasm). Mike I was on the USS America CVA 66 in 1970 and as such am part of the Blue Water Navy that is being shunned by the VA and congress. Look up the webstite. Punchbowl National Cemetery of the Pacific is called. Over time, swelling and inflammation of the bile duct can lead to cancer. Last name: It is a travestywhen I hear about men who gave so much and who are in a sense betrayed by the verygovernment and country they served. Veterans returning from Vietnam were met with an institutional response marked by indifference. american legion of purple hearts. It is anticipated that the overall number of veterans would fall from 19.5 million in the year 2020 to 13.6 million in the year 2048. second tour. I get to testify and present them with the story of a 20 y/o medic carrying dead and wounded around for 14 months in country. As of the last Census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S. Scientific Wild Ass Guess. to indicate what they want but I do have to believe that these may be close 800k approx left, sort of sobering uh. "It was surprising," he said, stressing the preliminary results could include false positives and that the research is ongoing. "But until further research, a recommendation cannot be made either way.". A fellow soldier in the 134th assault helicopter company with me shot and killed himself just down the hall from where I slept while I was sleeping. I knew we were losing our numbers fast but not nearly as fast as we are, thank you for the education. The excess mortality, especially through motor vehicle accidents, suicide, homicide, and accidental poisonings, occurred mainly in the first 5 years after discharge from active duty and involved. According to an estimate by the New York Times, there were 8.4 million Vietnam veterans who were still alive in the year 2000.Of those, 1.1 million had passed away.It was also estimated that there will be a total of 138,000 Vietnam veterans who will pass away every year from this point forward.Editorial note from the administrator of the website: For me, the estimate from two years ago of 610 thousand seems to make the most sense. How the hell can anyone answer this question? How Many Veterans Are Enrolled In College? Semper Fi to your hubby. Ach, the memories. statistics that are at once depressing yet in a larger sense should give you a HUGE SENSE OF PRIDE. im a vietnam vet.i was in the army from 1964 1967.i went to vietnam in october 1965-1966.i was in charlie , company.2-16,infantry, rangers.we fought in many battles.the biggest was operation abilene,april 11th,1966.we had 80% csaulties.i was awarded the silver star,and purple heart for that battle.i became a detroit poilce officer after i left the army.i retired,and moved to san diego ca,after retirment.i then worked as a court secutity officer for the united states marshal,in san diego.i had a very seroius heart attack,and several strokes.im retired now.im a life member of the vietnam veterans of america,life member of the D.A.V. Born: 08/27/1943. david dolby died 63 yrs old 5 tours in nam. Ischemic heart problems. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? The USS Rhona was blown up with a German missile. I spent nearly thirty years as an officer and still teach them. He was among those who got the call. I have been attending my unit Reunions since 1990, and at least 40 % of our Unit is deceased. of E-5Sent to W. Germany Nov 1966-Sept.67 ,Volunteered for Vietnam Nov. 1967-Sept 1968 9th Inf. Compared to the U. S. population, the mortality rates of Veterans are higher at older ages, and the life expectancy of Veterans are estimated to be 0.7-0.9 life-years shorter for males, and to be 1.2-1.3 life-years shorter for female at age 25, 45, and 65. They all understand. my email is, [email protected]., mike: fact is, my factory closed last summer, so i went and applied for some va disabilty, to help until i get fully retired. We read this article at our last meeting thanks again. And for the men who served in Vietnam and survived unspeakable horrors, coming home offered its own kind of trauma. Mike Baughman holds a 1971 photo of himself in his U.S. Army uniform at his home in Danville, California on Aug. 2, 2016. The Current Situation Regarding the Missing and Unaccounted for American Service Members Who Were Killed in Vietnam. Recently, a local widow of a serviceman received a shock when. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. OK I found the source and and researching this more. 1995 (census figures). Its better than them walking away and not even recognizing you. I do not concur with this figure. Protestors demonstrate for full benefits for all US veterans, including Vietnam War veterans in July, 1974. Using that same time frame the number of Blue Water Navy . I work with veterans all the time and thought you might find it interesting (if you didnt know already) that any Vietman Vet who served in country and who develops Parkinsons Disease, Lou Gehrigs disease, or a number of other illnesses is assumed tohave been exposed to Agent Orange and AUTOMATICALLY qualfies for Service Connected Disability. And instead of getting return peace fingers, I got the middle finger.. 1/3rd of all the U.S. Vets who served in VietNam ?!?!? I would like to see how much that differs from the civilian population and are they no. Names were called, Vets were spit on, along with not being respected by our own did happen. Working on a story for my veterans paper at my website and found your blog on this subject. Often asked: What To Say In A Letter To A Veteran? he was back home in Texas he made it. And I believe the qualifier thereis that many were claiming to be combatvets when in reality the ratio of logistics to grunts was about 9:1 therefore the large number suggested was true Vietnam Veterans, just not combat vets. According to figures provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs of the United States, 530 Vietnam veterans pass away every single day. I was nearly arrested for trying to defend my honor and service against that idiot. Jaundice, itchy skin, weight loss and other symptoms appear only when the disease is in its final stages. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. They were not necessarily looking for a parade, but they were certainly looking for basic human support and help in readjusting to civilian life after this really brutal war.. Cheers. have my Library and collection of movies, my garage and my dogs and cats. Magazine, the Public Information Office, and the HQ CP Forward Observer My husband is former Marine (in Vietnam 1966-67) and diagnosed with Parkinsons, diabetes, etc. I would like to see the source for this estimate that there are only 850,000 Vietnam Veterans still alive. One last ramble. Some, like Wowwk, say they had invectives hurled their way; others, like naval officer Ford Cole, remember being spit on. Mike: Thanks for the unexpected note. I have a few observations, but I will let you all go first. 65-66 and Fed-67. Most Vietnam Veterans are in their 60s and the average lifespan for a male in USA is 74. Do you think there shouldnt be any baggage there? [email protected]. And approximately 164,000 Americans who served at sea in Vietnam waters are alive today. It stopped short of urging them to get ultrasounds or other tests, saying there was currently no evidence the vets had higher infection rates than the general population. 24 How long did a soldier have to serve in Vietnam? Another who is 85,from Colorado and was on the USS Rhona in Tunisia in the early stages of WWll who filed his claim at age 80 for PTSD. In 2018, the median income of Vietnam veterans and that of non-veterans was almost equivalent: It was significantly lower for veterans, who had served their country between the ages of 63 and 78 at the time, coming in at $63,300 as opposed to the average of $65,000 for nonveterans. Born: 04/07/1937. What was the life expectancy of a helicopter door gunner in Vietnam? but sofar nothing how many are reallyleft? Well, one thing to remember is that not all Vietnam veterans were born in 1945 or later. To me, It means today is a fresh start and we have one more chance at having a normal life. . If this jogs someones memory than please write on this blog so we can perhaps chat sometime. http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=63544, MY MINISTRY: http://web.mac.com/rthorne2/Site/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY.html, De Nomie, William D. Sgt. Local boards called men classified 1-A, 18-1/2 through 25 years old, oldest first. Likely 15 to 20 percent of the total who served after the buildup in 1965 were born before the end of World War II. I am rated 100% disabled and damn happy to be privileged and capable of pushing out this small Blog. Im 66 years old, going in to the hospital for the 4th time for more stents. got rocketed big time because it was the start of the TET offensive. ) While I was in Vietnam I saw men, who did brave and heroic deeds they deserve all the best from life. A lot of them give me that blank stare like, 'You've got what?'". Pete, be sure to ask your DAV guy if he thinks you have exhausted the Reconsideration process. Food for thought. Required fields are marked *. At your next response, should you be so kind, I will tell you of a career U.S. Navy hero who died alone, broke, unsung in a Trailer park in Oregon. the word from the rear was we werent authorized cib. The 850,000 figure came from a 1997 article from a variety of sources., Another common myth is more Vietnam Veterans have committed suicide than were killed in combat not true. Then, on March 10, 2010 the Secretary makes a statement detailing a new plan to automate AO filings that will speed up the process. I heard a pop and at that time guys used to mess with pin flairs so when I was awaken by a popping sound I thought it was a pin flair going off. For myself I always felt that the millions of men who were in uniform before me returned to civilian life, I could do the same, when I went into the army, I was My English teaching assistant at the U of A, in 1971, called me a baby killer, and spat on the ground. What order should I watch Flowers in the Attic series? WWII and Korean War vets. am i misrepresenting myself, id really like to know. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. . Can you send flowers anonymously through 1800flowers? There census number is quite high, but I do not think it is this high.). More over 8 million people served their country in some capacity during the Vietnam War, and those veterans who are still alive now are often in their 60s and 70s. A lot of guys found themselves in the sh-t and were not grunts. FACT CHECK: We strive for accuracy and fairness. 7,484 women (6,250 or 83.5% were nurses) served in Vietnam. Of the 50 blood samples submitted, more than 20 percent came back positive or bordering positive for liver fluke antibodies, said Sung-Tae Hong, the tropical medicine specialist who carried out the tests at Seoul National University in South Korea. have similar data. By way of the SHADS project, we are still handling claims of radiation exposure in WWll and those who went to ABC school in the Navy; Atomic, Biological, Chemical Warfare training on ships in the early 1960s. They are getting old, as time passes away from history those part of it become history themselves. Median age is 68 years. at the time i wasnt concerned, though, some of the guys working as fos, who were planning on a military career, were trying to get cibs. Return to country Jun 1969-Apr 1970 I Field Forces Vietnam. When my wife and I go to a restaurant I always ask for a booth or table by the wall, so I can see whats going on around me. Vietnam Veterans may be eligible for disability compensation benefits because of exposure to Agent Orange. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial was dedicated on November 10 . 2017 Report on Race and Ethnicity 624,000 during World War II and throughout the Korean Conflict 1,475,000 Vietnam Era 6,651,000 0 2 4 6 8 10 2017 2022 2027 2032 2037 Millions World War Two Conflict in Korea Vietnam Era Gulf War Era. Age: 75. Vietnam was a lost war, and it was the first major lost war abroad in American history, Lembcke says. Then compare that report to the Tripler Psychologist report of a (get this) 5 minute interview. CIB air medalan dall that. I take ware hearing aids and to this day Im always vigilant when Im out always The Vietnam War lasted from 1964-1973the longest war in American history. i just learned, they are going to give me 40% for a couple things. Im a former member of the 173rd Abn Bde-First (Army) in VNam from The Rock We were in the tents in the mud in 1966 /67 . Thank You. I had 6 close buddies in Vietnam. 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