Aging ? Question: Is it worth continuing to harvest the leaves after the tobacco plant has flowered? You do need LARGE pots, it grows a huge root ball. As they dry they will yellow. Throw all the ingrediants into a pot and bring to the boil then give the cut tobacco a good spray and then let dry.Got desperate this year and smoking tobacco that has been hanging for only 4 weeks and has taken the harshness out. Spread the leaves out so they're at least 1 inch (2.5 cm) apart to give them plenty of space to dry. Don't look now, but you've probably already done itwell enough for the average punter, at least. Basic idea of the home chamber is to simulate the internal temperatures of a tobacco pile as seen at tobacco production facilities. 50% of these commercial growers cure for between 7 and 14 days. First time grower. Having got that off my chairy little hest, let's get down to the nitty-gritty. Store the tobacco in a room between 60 to 95 F (16 to 35 C) to cure it. I have been advised that I must ferment to improve the flavour, but more importantly to remove the ammonia which is pretty bad for you. Here in New Zealand, nothing much seems to bug tobacco, either from above or below ground. Monitor the leaves periodically to make sure they dont turn moldy, and remove any leaves that do. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on December 23, 2014: Hi John, I hope that all's well with you now. But they are surely processed differently. You'll read a lot of unmitigated drivel about the difficulty of curing tobacco. Answer: The best time is November, give or take, but January's fine for a later crop. When the leaves are in the Eski fermenting do you turn them or move them around. Stack leaves (10-20+) and sweat in sun or oven in winter. And I always unplugged the light when leaving the house. By using this service, some information may be shared with YouTube. Haven't noticed. Im experiencing some small security troubles with my latest weblog and Id like to locate something more safeguarded. And it sounds like you will be able to modify your system for next year!Just one note! It does thrive in rich, well-draining soils, but it'll make do with what it gets. Cold and frost will affect your crop yield. Fermentation also stabilizes the leaf so that it doesn't decompose further in storage. As each plant grows, you'll see small tobacco plants (suckers or basal shoots) starting to grow as side-shoots from the main stalk at the base of the leaves, the same as with tomatoes and that other stuff some people smoke. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on July 05, 2016: The blog given to us has some exciting features. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on July 17, 2018: Try misting the dried leaves with a mixture of oil of cloves (from the chemist) and water. Reply Question: Should I pinch off leaves that begin to get white spots? Question: How do you flavor tobacco with honey and alcohol? When using plastic bag style do you move them around and how often do you water with the plastic bag style. Using the ones made for smoking, bleached, or with added chemicals is not ideal, to say the very least. If the leaves get too brittle, you can moisten them with water from a spray bottle. Trying to perfect the cutting now but am very happy with my "own grown". To dry tobacco leaves, also known as "curing" the leaves, first pick the leaves off of your tobacco plant by hand. If you want plant them elsewhere, they'll grow for a later crop. Answer: Dissolve a little honey in alcohol, (Rum, Vodka, Port through preference.) Anyway, just wanted to say your article has been very helpful not to mention giving me a great laugh here and there. Do you think theyll go ok in there until after the last frost of winter? James' book The Heirloom Tobacco Garden and i've been excited to try his method using jars. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on September 13, 2014: The bowler hat brigade - too stupid to "do" so spend their lives telling us "not to do". on Introduction. If you're not in a rush, take your time and pick the leaves as they come ready. Take a leaf, strip out the center rib and any large side ribs if it's a big leaf, and repeat this process for several leaves until you have a generous handful. They'll need temperatures of 75 to 80F to germinate. Fire curing produces a tobacco low in sugar and high in nicotine. Tobacco starts from shockingly tiny seeds and grows a million fold into a 6-7 foot monster in just about 5 months. My pleasure.. (still looking forward to your distillation blog ;). I watched a YouTube video and this guy dries his leaves in a aluminium cylinder with an element placed on the bottom. The rest are green and some of the bottom leaves that don't get much light are a yellowish color. Also, in the images above you can see the vent holes I cut in the top and bottom of the coolerI have since plugged them up to hold in the humiditythere was too much ventilation going on. Question: I was wondering if I can take some larger leaves from my plants before they turn a paler green as I have planted my plants to close together. 3 years ago. Curing is basically the drying of tobacco in a moderately controlled environment. The product was a gentler and more aromatic smoke when it landed in Europe than when it left the "New World". Let the flowers bloom and die off. You may have had difficulty getting seed in the first place. Mine is 40ltr any old water boiler come tea earn will do. Secondly, don't break the law. References. Cut a thin slit through the center of the stem on each leaf using a utility knife. That being said it is taxing to spray the leaves so often. Essentially creating a compost heap where the internal temperature is carefully monitored along with the humidity levels. 4 years ago. Include your email address to get a message when this question is answered. Easy to follow and a good laugh along the way. Trying to beat the election and all the false promises. Question: I am a cigar smoker and I often put my stubs in my wife's flower bed. Answer: I remove the stems because they're woody and would produce lumpy tobacco. They'll turn dark brown and eventually start to split. Unplugging would have some impact on the fermentation process depending on the length of interruption, but better to unplug than to not have a house when you get back. And the other thing is that I 'm in Canada. Tinned tobacco will too, but not to the extent that it would in the tin. Pick whichever leaves are ready, and cut a slit near the stem end of the centre rib of each leaf. If you feel that yours is too green(and limp) still, try putting some in an oven at a low heat (100c or less) for half an hour or more to dry it to a better colour. Aging and curing tobacco helps the leaves get rid of their herby flavor and makes them taste more desirable. It's fine to jar bulk tobacco; it will resume fermentation. Hi guys. Then proceed in one of the following ways: Further up the page, I suggested that you let one plant flower for seed. Putting them in an oven at VERY low heat for an hour or so will also dry them ready to cut and smoke but I can't guarantee that they'll yellow as much as slow drying. In this fermenter, these conditions are achieved by a light bulb heat source, directed by a reflector dish towards the pile of air cured tobacco under it. Great sense of humor, and great information - good tips! Thanks. always use distilled water in the boiler. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Answer: You can make alcohol from any vegetable matter. Just what I was looking for answered a couple of questions I had never thought about, I will be starting them off over the next two months now it is Sunday 3rd of March 2019, (I am a slow starter). to cut: take dried leaves cut out stems, dampen dried leaves, put in press to make solid block, cut and re-dry cut tobacco. an accidental discovery in my kitchen when a friend came around for a cupper with his new e-ciggy has lead to a major discovery for my tobacco processing methods when i added a few drops of his vape juice to my tobacco. the pic was just of some plants that had mold growth on them. Gonna have a couple of acres there, so can plant heaps, and better growing conditions. The seeds will pass through while most of the rubbish will stay behind. You are so right, they do adapt to the area. Many thanks. Since yous have given me some ideas i will give you a fact. Having my first try at it and given I'm in the far north east of Scotland I'm having quite good results so far, that said been an unusually good Sumer. Put tobacco in jar. During two years in Vanuatu where home-grown tobacco is available in the markets (cured and twisted into braids) I discovered I could make a "brew" just as good as my favourite pipe tobacco "Amphora". Thanks to all authors for creating a page that has been read 141,782 times. 11 years ago (These have some glorious botanical name that doesn't matter a bit. This is just 3 hands of tobacco and it does have quite the aroma associated with it! We use cookies to make wikiHow great. Thank you so much for putting up this site. Make sure kiln has good air circulation and that jars aren't touching walls to prevent condensation in jars. 12.5% cure for between 3 weeks and 11 weeks. Problem solved! We have seeds. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Growing, Curing and Fermenting Tobacco Part II 59,339 views Oct 6, 2018 555 Dislike Share Powers Family Homestead 5.56K subscribers Day 40 through 90. Mary Wickison from USA on March 23, 2014: After years of nagging (I mean politely requesting) my husband to stop, now I find your page. Frankly, if you're regularly ingesting nicotine, traces of ammonia, if they exist, should be the least of your concerns,- and homegrown tobacco is a lot less dangerous than the commercial stuff. I think I'll give this a go - nothing to lose, all my hair is already goneand I might learn a thing or two! When I think of ammonia, I think of a sharp biting smell, the chemical smell from either a bottle of windex or urine..(I once had mice as pets, which had that horrible smell) When I was researching tobacco fermentation I pictured those fermentation barns in central America to be awful, perhaps like walking into a tear gas chamberTaking this into consideration I have my fermentation cooler in an unused bathroom which has the ceiling vent on a timer (it turns on for 10 mins every hour). and is it any good? Hello! It's half a keg with a bin lid and a light globe for heat. (I could spare the bullfrogs.). Within a few hours the sun begins to bleach it. I will be 76 next month and live in the UK. Question: Is planting tobacco summer (start of January) ok? A Pocket Sundial From a Broken Pocket Watch! It's not exactly very warm here. I would like to make a kiln, and Im thinking about rigging it up with 12v solar so I can justify leaving it on, but in the meantime I wonder whether leaving the jars there as opposed to somewhere else for a year would make a significant difference. bumptious bureaucrats and politicians are revolting species, but i believe there's a special spot reserved in hell for those that don white coats and the mantle of 'oficial'. Yuk, you can buy them from https://ausseeds.com/, Please email us a complete pamphlet about the steps from planting to harvesting tobacco and how to dry and make cigarettes. It's a bit late now to plant outdoors, but you can probably start your seedlings in the hothouse, or better still in little pots on a warm windowsill (Like in the kitchen) . If they taste well enough without them fermenting do I still have to ferment them? Tobacco grows best in places that are dry and warm. Sun Curing. If you hit 71% or greater, you will have to take the bud out to dry more. Tobacco is an age old, yet amazing plant, which has become increasingly popular among hobbyist in recent times! Really its just a foam cooler with a $5 light from Home Depot now Oct. 26, 2011 UPDATE: In the final version of this fermenter, a (I simply used a cooler with no air holes, just one hole punched at the top for the light fixture). Question: Im in the Wairarapa and just got some seedlings from the local garden centre. -Week 3 smells very strongly like raisins. After drying the leaves then adding flavour such as vodka and then slicing/cutting would I store the tobacco in a air tight container? I just wondered whether the hot water cupboard would be a better spot as opposed to fairly consistent room temp in a living space. During the fermentation, there are several aromatic stages: An air-conditioned home would probably be too dry for air-curing tobacco. I smoke about 50grm/week -say 1 3/4 oz/week. Thank you for posting this. Growth will stop until the weather warms up, then continue, but the plants will be smaller. It is only recently that I have heard any mention of ammonia occurring in the drying process, and I personally doubt whether it has much effect on the finished product. Leaves that dry too fast may remain green. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on March 20, 2014: I wrote a month or what back that I had started harvesting and drying down here in North Canty, and being the impatient bugger that I am, have started smoking it now, and am pleasantly surprised with the result. If you need more seed google King Seeds in Katikati, (I've a link in the text). What I can find worryingly little information on is how long you need to ferment it for, depending on what you want to do with it. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on June 07, 2014: Sorry mate, I can't help you there, I've no experience at this rather covert way of growing bacci'. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on February 17, 2015: No I haven't tried that. If you live in a place that's warm enough to grow cabbage, tobacco will thrive. Thanks for sharing! The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on May 16, 2014: Hi there Rob n Rose, sorry for the tardy reply. The Wide mouth 1-gallon glass jar with lid is one of the most popular jars today because it's cheap and effective. If it's warmer, that's even better. Jars can also be an alternative to cellaring in the tin. Cheers. Put seed-growing mix or a mixture of fine soil and sand in a shallow container. Our politicians will waste tens of millions on a futile flag referendum (and then probably twist the results - the head of the CIA visited last week) then they tax the Hell out of smokers - over 90% of the retail cost of tobacco returns to the government in some form of taxation (a conservative estimation) but smokers are denied the medical treatment of others as they "caused their own problems". Built a box frame 2'6" sq. Almost magically, theyll regain their pliability with a little moisture. It should take about 4-8 weeks for the leaves to dry out entirely, but it may take longer depending on the variety of tobacco and your climate. i will try outside next year just abit worrie about things eatting them .. the slugs around here seem to have a nicotine addiction. I cured a bit with bourbon in the oven and got a nice pipe smoke. Answer: I'm sorry but I can't really help you as there are too many unknowns. , i bought 1 kg virginia tobacco leaves, its sun cured, but its really smells bad !! Here are a couple things to be on the lookout for as your tobacco is curing: The trick for curing is time. The hothouse on our section looks like a great starting place for our seedling to get a start. For tobacco, the curing process is similar to the standard drying process of cannabis. All I can think of is fire hazard!! I know people who smoke tobacco at every shade, as the whim and their approach to curing takes them, and they seem no worse off than off the shelf smokers. But really, there are no unpleasant smells to be vented. Gently shake the sieve. Most people use wide-mouth quart or half-gallon glass mason jars,. This method of curing will produce tobacco leaves that are, relative to other curing methods, low in sugar, high in nicotine, and sweet in flavor! So none of the tobacco was touching the water. Hanging Tobacco Leaves for Drying 1 Dry tobacco in the fall for the best results. He left the element on about 150 C for a few days. some plastic corks to keep the purple basket out of the water - filled the purple basket with the tobacco and put quite a thick bit of plastic over the top the plastic has been stretched and taped in place.. it has all been cleaned because this sort of condition breeds mold. BTW the leaves held by the old bloke in the article's photo grew in a temperate climate in spring and summer.They're pretty average bottom leaves (the higher you go the smaller the leaf) We get light frosts in Winter. Fire-cured tobacco is hung in large barns where fires of hardwoods are kept on continuous or intermittent low smoulder and takes between three days and ten weeks, depending on the process and the tobacco. Or is it better to harvest the whole plant once it has flowered? Otherwise, do as a lot of people I know do - buy a cheap lighter and put up with lighting up often, its a lot less costly than getting store-bought tobacco! Question: Do you think putting a few dried mint leaves in with my tobacco leaves will give it a menthol taste? I grow over 100 + plants - mainly in pots but some in the ground. Let them dry out on the plant. This will keep the leaves moist but reduce the chance of mold developing while theyre in storage. This is predominately a writers/informational blog, but can be quite social in its comments, as you may have noted above. Wear sterile disposable gloves and fill each jar about of the way full with your dried and trimmed buds. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on July 30, 2014: Drying- Three months will do it, less if you give a bit of a boost with a slightly warm oven. Then, thread a string through the slits. This seems to be the right amount of heat! 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