No Warp core, just a quantum singularity, The engine was basically a dorm fridge. Your link has been automatically embedded. My buddy took 1st place in the Delmarva championship with the X5 in CO. Please Wait. Profits over reliability and you end up with junk. The P320 9mm compact was known to have issues with failure to extract. Were not saying that the suits against GLOCK are any more (or less) substantiated than those against SIG. Its interesting that ABC chose to leave that point out of one of their reports. The Glocks trigger had caught on a fold in the leather holster and it pushed the trigger part way back. Still thinking. Bagnell is representing a number of the police officers who have filed suits against SIG for un-commanded discharges, but wouldnt disclose the exact number. Who function tests their firearm 1) with a round in the chamber, and 2) when its pointed at an extremity? The pictures on the internet were enough to scare the shit out of you especially his wound in the thigh. There is something that SIG addressed a while back. Heres the version that ran Tuesday morning during the networks Good Morning America program . ! only reveals ones immature emotional attachment to an inanimate object, which reveals a pretty childish worldview. The modular SIG P320 is among the most widely-owned handguns on the planet. SIG brought us into their testing facility today and demonstrated that three upgraded P320s were all functional and fired properly. This gun had been voluntary upgraded. Thats the American system at work in all its corrupt majesty. Fitting, gauging, and range testing. I was having issues with my P320, failure to extract that started off as a single incident in a month, then increasing in frequency after. And N310 is yet faster burning powder, where you are guaranteed higher peak pressure for the same velocity with the same bullet at the same OAL, and 165gr is yet a heavier bullet, where you get greater pressure increases per tenth of a grain of powder, so less forgiving. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. SIG Sauer factory Extractor Pin for the P320. Manual safeties on pistols, hammer and striker fired systems were found necessary as far back as 1900. He points to it in the video. Dont quote the four rules of safety in your article when all the hotness in the gun world is appendix carry pointing something at an extremity and the photos you use showing front slide serrationsputting your hands fingers near the business end of the barrel, because press checks from the front is the way all the cool operator guys do it. I know I'm reviving an old thread here as well. Using an example from the first prong, we legitimately fault the user who shot himself in the palm, rightfully asking why in the WORLD his palm was in front of the muzzle when he set the gun down. https://apis.mail.yahoo.com/ws/v3/mailboxes/@.id==VjN-iN4Wr8P_P2lGU6m2M5Rd8F6tVxyeeWdzleA_0eUoKjB0wER5wbVU_ouLj3uKCvLmUWhjIv2uHVC2R0Wv8Q9VgQ/messages/@.id==AMxkWSMoHX4bYSzMKA0AINojDH4/content/parts/@.id==2/refresh?appid=YMailNorrinLaunch&ymreqid=ae6c4f7d-acdd-ffa3-1c80-d70000011c00. I can say we are aware of the statement released by SIG SAUER, said Maj. Amber Bineau. Canadian Special Forces Command has not said what caused the gun to go off unexpectedly, but the company said a conclusion has been reached. Theyve gotten tons of contracts because the gun is cheap, cheap, cheap to make. 3 disaster is true and if it is Sig will go all out to cover it up if it was. ALL OF THEM. Im more of a DS9 guy. Seems kind of like a Sig apologist article. Display as a link instead, 2) The p320 does have a half cocked notch. Copyright 2022 The. to docile, too subtle, to contextual. Over pressure, and poor case support, just a thought. Would you? You can post now and register later. Here's the video, if anyone's still interested in this topic: https://youtu.be/ilFcfIyUz6U My results are the same (about 2k rounds later). From what I can tell, it has all the GEN II upgrades. I lost $200 on a gun that had less then 1000 rounds through it but I could care. I've heard a couple of cases of this. June 20, 2017 in Sig. True Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! She claims that her holstered P320 pistol went off while she was carrying it in her purse. Then 4 to 6 week wait for repair. ABCs own hired consultant, who appears to have no dog in these fights, asserted that he could find no reasonable explanation for these claims and that he considers the upgraded P320 pistols safe for sale to law enforcement and the public. MGW carries a vast array of replacement slides, barrels, magazines, sights, grip modules, pins, springs and other small parts for this handgun. rpm8300 It has not yet responded to the latest legal filing, and didnt respond to a request for comment. But this time, the sound bites used were different. My load (135 gr RMR JFP over 3.8gr A#2) is fairly mild and does not swell the back end of the case like the pics above but they will grow about .002"-.004". They have hundreds of thousands of P320s in regular service now and, despite a search, we couldnt find a rash of reports of soldiers claiming their pistols are firing on their own. I have read on forums where the factory swapped the extractor and made another change to add more tension on it. In this version, Bridge City Officer Brittany Hilton tells her story of what she says happened when her P320 discharged as she was carrying it in her purse in what appears to be a SERPA holster (which has had its own problems, but thats another story). Thats deflecting from the real issue. But hey, in ruthless, lawless, Capitalvania were life is considered cheap and expendable no one gives a shit, especially the Far Right that screams about abortions and then kills off the children that were not aborted with loaded guns laying around the house. Yeah, what he said . You're never supposed to admit to shooting reloaded ammo when contacting customer service! I lost $150 dumping that gun and Sig instead of acknowledging that it had a problem and calling it a recall, denied all and everything and called it a voluntary upgrade., At my LGS a P320 just went off when one of the guys put it the counter when he set up a target. Where is this lightning striking twice? Charlton, headquartered in Victoria, B.C., for comment on its original story, but neither responded. More common is the incorrect reassembly, for those who have removed the plunger, spring or claw. Both are listed by Sig Sauer as micro-compacts, but the size difference is there, and it does make a difference. Fair enough. People of the Gun are probably familiar with the early problems the P320 had regarding drop safety. I expect a handgun to run anything I put in it, within reason; I do not believe expecting the gun to run with steel case to be unreasonable. The Sig Sauer P320 Extractor is a Factory OEM Sig Sauer part. Vihtavuori doesn't publish data for even N320 with a 147gr plated bullet, much less N310, so not only is this N310, it's with an even heavier 165gr bullet. . In 2017, a prominent online gun shop pulled the P320 from its shelves, citing its concern that the weapon could fire if dropped from the wrong angle. Trying to categorically say Brand X is better than Brand Y! Pasted as rich text. But it hardly indicts the P320 as a badly engineered weapon or that its worse than another brand. They did, however, note that when they were contacted by ABC, the company pointed out specific circumstances that were subsequently uncovered in the investigations of a number of these incidents. Including winchester white box,and aluminum, no steel. The problem with Sig is with their polymer pistols. And I have a separate channel for mall ninja training tips. The P320 should be scrapped and SIG Sauer USA should redesign a new pistol around the striker firing mechanism instead of just retrofitting a hammer fired pistol (P250). And they would not have done that for no reason at all. I have had some self induced issues with feel since trying to go full length guide rod, 15# 1911 spring and Apex trigger. These lawsuits arent about Sig making a defective weapon, theyre about lawyers building a nationwide consensus in civil trial that makes it easier (and more lucrative) to soak gunmakers. Born date on box is 8-18-2016. So does any of this mean theres something wrong with the P320? Look a fanboy. I call Sig hoping to send it in for repairs, they told me to try different ammo. I think he said that they replaced the extractor pin or spring or something, but not the extractor itself. How about something more relevant. Have you ever put a handgun down with your palm in front of the muzzle? Is there any major military anywhere that ever issued one of their guns? The weapon was out of battery when it fired.. In the most recent legal action, Deputy Vadnais is seeking $10 million in damages and to have SIG Sauer recall the pistol. Both versions of #1 and #2 can be caused by the gun short stroking. Still having the same exact Type 3 Malfs every other round. All with VV310. Welcome aboard. The tendency is for people to say "I've shot thousands of this load, and nothing has ever happened before." I discovered a small crack in the chamber of an older model 226 several years ago, and the best they would do was offer a discount on a new barrel because I shot reloads. I guess none got her the attention she wanted and a national coverage so she went in for the bang. Fiocchi worked flawlessly, on the blazer had fte every fifth round or so. When a consumer product is likely to be operated in such a way that it causes accidents because it is way too easy to make a serious mistake because of human error when operating it the manufactures are told that the machine must be made safer. New Hampshire Public Radio | I have 2 FCUs and 4 caliber kits. Cops are crap with guns, unlike me, a REAL pistolero! The truth is the absolute WORST semi-autos that Sig, H&K, Walther, Beretta or Glock makes today are more reliable than the best semi-autos made 40 years ago, by far. Its hard to say yet but with anything follow the basic safety rules. No picture for me. Having it as the ONLY trigger pull the weapon has seems (to me) clearly dangerous. They didnt see a problem at all and in fact, saw it as an upgrade over Glock. So even if, as the ambulance chaser claims, the striker leg could vibrate off of the sear face, it could not discharge unless the drop safety was also disengaged because the drop safety prevents movement of the striker sufficient to make the firing pin protrude from the breech face. Your link has been automatically embedded. As the round is stripped from the magazine it is pushed up the feed ramp and into the partially extracted round still hanging out the back of the barrel. If it were a lowered tier manufacturer like a Taurus having allegations made against them, people would run with it without thinking twice. Then without any extra effort, the normal trigger pull caused the tab on the drop safety to sheer off. Really, that JJA ship looks like something the folks at PlaySkool built, its terrible. Remember also that with a handful of notable exceptions, modern firearms do not just go off, no matter what is later claimed by those who may be held responsible. BrianEnos.com I still own them all. The military is already shopping for a new sidearm. Here is a movie that he filmed 40 years ago and he was still raking it in. The cost of settlements will be passed on to us. RAYZ-When I LAMR I load a full mag (11 rounds in a factory 17 or 21 round mag) then cycle the slide. On Thursday, M.D. posted March 06, 2017 05:33 PM. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. Jim. $8.95. The Collette suit, for example, lists 39 such discharges, all but five of which involved law enforcement officers. Is it? It's been my EDC since that time and has been 100% reliable. So are dumb(or arrogant) cops. Everyone remember the video of the DEA agent shooting himself while explaining that he was highly qualified to carry a gun? Trigger is lighter than the Glock, it took years of aggressive training to reach the point of acceptable discharges with the Glock. Either one could have been a gun or a Barbie. If the military was going to go cheap then they should have thrown Taurus into the mix. That prompted Sig Sauer to issue what it. In the suit, the deputy suggested that the company issue an "enhanced, unambiguous warning to . If it fails, you're kind of screwed. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at [email protected]. Changing the extractor & extractor spring (recommended fix) seems to have solved the problem. He quickly too quickly tried to pick up the gun from the floor before anyone could see it, and in his haste, he picked it up with his finger on the trigger and accidentally fired the gun. The SIG will be the shortest military contract for guns in history. I have an M18 and I hope to find an aftermarket barrel that does not have the same design "flaw". The design was incorporated from Bruce Grays trigger kit around the time of the original drop safety fix. Broken ejector. Only issue with 320 was initially choking on first round when all 17 rounds were loaded in mag. The new Tauruses have a good rep, far better then the P320 or P365. Bravo. there is no better. Yea, I already have the RA and the Fedex shipping label. I brought a box of fiocchi and a box of blazer ammo. I agree. The P320 was known to discharge if dropped on the striker plate at a certain angle. Unless they have to fire their weapon in an on-duty incident most officers only fire their weapons just before and/or at qualifications, which depending on the department are annual or semi-annual. But the reality is that the military has been using the Sig P320 for almost 5 years and they show no signs of changing. Maybe. I mean hey, yelling about firearms preferences online is no more productive than discussing nerdy Star Trek stuff, is it? It nicely describes what has to happen in a striker-fired P320 for an un-commanded discharge to happen as the plaintiffs have claimed. It has an unsafe takedown procedure that requires you to pull the trigger to get the slide off. They then proceeded to repeatedly drop each one onto concrete at that precise -30 problem angle from four feet. You cannot paste images directly. Both of my P320 carry's developed extraction issues. The gun has been running flawlessly with mixed brass with 165gn plated, 158gn 38/.357, and 147 factory since. You should always use a real holster, or carry it condition 3 or 4 if its off-body. Sig P320 Extractor Upgrade and FTE Fixes FaRKle0079 4.49K subscribers Subscribe 7K views 2 years ago The P320 has been the most unreliable pistol I own, primarily due to failure to extract. Almost like they used a revolver forcing cone cutter to give it a elongated mouth to enhance feeding. Lastly, ship-wise I have to go with the TMP-era refit Enterprise, regardless of Captain. SIG doesnt so you get killed by a punk with a Hi Point. USA. If you can make the trigger move backwards, all bets are off. Just recently got a 9mm Full Size kit and it's driving me nuts. It was one of the first ones and was sent back as a voluntary upgrade. But Shatner? That was me. And precision swagged 125gr in .358. But they addinsult to injury by a"funneled" cut a good 1/8"-3/16" in from the chamber face. My friend's 320 rx pictures below, out of battery firing, barrel appears to be short chambered, not enough case supportsee pix belowSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. The clearest memory I have about the many people experiencing post-upgrade discharges is a cop who set his P320 on a table, and several seconds after letting go, IT DISCHARGED ON ITS OWN! Weird how that might happen. Update: 6/30/16 Ordered a new Caliber X-change kit 9F about 4 weeks ago and have been using the new kit for the last 4 matches. You can feel the point when it binds, or sticks, even when manually operating the action slowly May 2 . The Sig P320 XTen is one of few P320's that are in a different caliber, and the only 10mm Auto. Im a Kirk guy, a Shatner Kirk guy. Theyre just on a 30 year nap hoping what they did will carry them forever. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The Sig P320 XTen (bottom) has the same feel and general dimensions as the full-size 9mm P320 pistols (top). Got a bad batch of WW ammo or Yaaay! They suck and Im awesome!, 2. I dont consider the drop-bang issue a failure and Sigs response was actually above any real need, except to perhaps deflect any easy wins for slime ambulance chasers I get that. In 2021 you would think a company would understand MIM metallurgy. NO. All those customers who paid $1600 now had a limited function paper weight. The fact that it happened to you three times with the same ammo eliminates the gun as the variable, and makes it the ammo. Without a loser pays tort system, such abuse will go on and on. who sells them? SIG ultimately settled that lawsuit. Theyve also been adopted as duty guns by law enforcement agencies across the country. Just ordered all new parts from Top Gun Supply. The fact is that the plaintiffs will get paid regardless of who did what. selling the 365 with strikers breaking? . It was at that point that I knew the gun had a design flaw. The weapon had a history of going off unexpectedly when it was dropped at a certain angle. . And on the flip side of the coin is the decades of denial by Remington on the 700 which Ive seen firsthand. At least the Gorilla is still evolving while the Far Right proved to be an evolutionary dead end, one of natures mistakes. As for the Serpa holster, this is a bunch of internet echo chamber BS that originated with Obama-era federal agencies putting a bad light on a good product in order to sway public opinion and thus damage the manufacturers bottom line. Trust a P365 with your life. A too light 1911 as some use in competition or God Forbid for carry- could jump the sear if dropped. I wont argue theyre wrong, I dont own one, dont want to. Ironic that the trendsetters of yesteryear are trying to tear down the innovator of today because its Not perfected yet! and the Design isnt worked out!. I'm relatively convinced that it's fixed. Make a gift to NHPR today for your chance to win a trip for 2 to Ireland! TTAG talked to SIG Sauer about the P320 suits and the ABC reports. I too think its ammo related. To put it simply, they are expensive cheaply made junk. Face it, you paid far too much for a plastic gun. is the manual safety a kit you add? At rest, cocked, it may very well have enough oomph to set some primers off. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. That is exactly why all civilized countries have Government Agencies that monitor companies that have a callus disregard for human life and are only interested in the quick buck. I don't think this has a bearing in this case because I tried Federal factory premium loads and Winchester factory loads as well as my hand loads. Post again when you buy a real gun that you can defend yourself with. Got a whole lot more than the handful you've got pictured too! SIG Sauer, a German weapons maker with its U.S. headquarters in Newington, N.H., issued a statement Friday in response to a CBC News report earlier this week that revealed the Nov. 5, 2020, incident and the fact the weapon, the SIG P320, had been withdrawn from service while the military conducts an investigation. No problems there. I'll keep you all posted. Tomac. Much has been made of Nimoys Spock being the most popular character in TOS, but Id argue that without Shatners over-the-top swagger and brash manner, the balance would be lost. If the P320 was so great then why did special forces go to the Glock 19? At least the Lion roars when he is hungry, the C.E.O smiles at you and when you turn your back he puts a knife right into it. Also, N320/147g or N310/165g at125-130 pf are probably a good deal lower pressure than factory +P or +P+ loads, which should be safe to shoot in these guns. Back in 2017, SIG instituted a voluntary upgrade program to replace the original production triggers with new enhanced triggers designed to fix the issue that we and others observed when the pistols were dropped onto hard surfaces. S Stiven Registered Joined Dec 25, 2020 10 Posts POLISHED SILVER | Polished CrN. How many times did Shatner actually watch it? The chamber on the 320's is horribly unsupported and a questionable design in my opinion. Anyway around here they do. Too much MIM in that crap SIG, the old ones were great. (chamber area) and checked for spent shell retention. He was happy to find this post and that it confirmed that he felt the case support looked inadequate. Time will tell if no. The Milwaukee police department has had 3 incidents of the Sig discharging while being in a holster sitting in a patrol car in 2023. If it was so bad, why did the US Marines, who had the Glock, drop it in favor of the carry sized P320, the M18? Stinking Lawyers and quota cops. Third, Glock has had problems, too. P365/P365XL Striker Kit. Also make sure you greased the rails and properly lubricated the pistol. Clear editor. Ron Cohen ruined Kimber and now hes doing the same to SIG. The service includes the following. Also some sport pistol at 132. I think in the end even if there is no mechanical defect (dont hold your breath) it will be found that the Sig is causing accidental discharges for the same reason the Glock does, because if you snag the trigger on the Sig model that does not have a manual safety (some do) the gun will accidentally fire. UPDATE:We were just made aware of YouTuber BoomStick Tactical who produced this video the day before our post published. Quit blaming cops or the military, these guns have a serious problem. If you run into any issues, please call Customer Service and they will help you through the process. The Government mandated it to be made more safe to use and was. That a pistol will be carried in a way it shouldnt (say, in a gym bag or a purse). It provides another example of how the gun free zone purportedly keeps people safe by not only keeping guns away, but by requiring more discharges nearby. Both were sent back to Sig and fixed. But that doesn't excuse poor design and quality control. I agree that Glock is sitting on their laurels and has been for decades. The list is long proving gun manufactures were well aware of this problem now for 121 years yet they abandoned this when the Glock infested the gun market. As to prong 2, there is a considerable difference between the mechanism of a 320 and, say, ones basic Glock, in that a 320 is fully cocked, whereas a Glock is half-cocked until the trigger is fully depressed, with the striker remaining locked by the striker safety plunger until that is released by a cam on the trigger bar. Great job, this threat needed some levity! Possibly. But this 9F will fail to extract a fired case about every 3rd or 4th mag. Yeah, I guess I learned that the hard way. Instead we see a Sig that is ran by Mr. Cohen of Kimber fame have repeated quality and product development failures. Especially since they farm it out to the lowest bidder. brakes, remember? (It wasnt my gun). Only problem is with the 9F Kit. This is what happens when you go with the lowest bidder. Will this issue get better or should I be contacting Sig? A former U.S. Marine and federal agent has filed a $10 million lawsuit against Sig Sauer Inc. alleging that his holstered Sig P320 -- a pistol that the Army's new sidearm is based on . Zimmerman said he is confident his plaintiffs will prevail in the lawsuit filed this week. But when you set a gun down on a table, and the damn thing goes off seconds after you let go, that sounds like a defective gun. You simply may not PREFER one make to another, or may simply dislike another make, but were to the point in semi-auto pistol production history where amongst the big brands, the only real distinctions are preference. Your previous content has been restored. They have similar vertical sear engagement, but the M&P has more engagement width wise. I've lost a little faith in my EDC. It was the same sort of progressively worsening extraction issues you describe. I don't shoot it often but yesterday had fte problems intermittently. I have a 2015 born sc that has almost 2k rounds thru it & not one fte has occurred. If you had a problem while shooting reloads and they still offered warranty service (regardless of whether you had to send it in), they must have changed their policy. All polymer guns are cheap, cheap, cheap to make, thats why I threw the Taurus name into the mix. She didnt sue, but swore she would never own another Volvo again. The sear cams it back a teeny bit. 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